Replay: Granholm, Pawlenty, Rendell and Sanford on Pork
Posted in Public Affairs, Money Matters, wordpress, Politics, disclosure, ethics, obama, Legislation on February 28th, 2009 by Stanford MatthewsLast weekend four governors gave their political statements in answer to questions provided by Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday. Gov Granholm of Michigan does not dispute she is a money grabbing liberal and doesn’t care where it comes from or what it will cost in the long run. Gov Pawlenty of Minnesota offers his excuse for taking the money citing his state pays more to the federal government than they get back. Rendell is only slightly more subtle than Granholm but the money grabbing philosophy is nearly identical. From this transcript it is unclear whether Gov Sanford of South Carolina will follow suit with the others.
This is what bipartisanship is in the present day. Perhaps it was always that way. The fact is all the rhetoric and posturing that does not result in doing the right thing gets characterized as bipartisanship or simply the other guys fault followed by we have no choice.
The fact is you always have a choice. And when none of the choices are pleasant it is time to come up with another plan. Unless solutions proposed are supported by an overwhelming majority both in the government and the public responsible elected officials should continue to find the right solution. Suggesting we cannot wait or that we must act now or perish is simply fear mongering to get your way. And that is rarely the right way.
The transcript excerpts and link are provided below.
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GRANHOLM: Well, this, to me, is not about philosophical theory. This is about real people who, through no fault of their own, are laid off because of a recession. They need to be able to put food on the table.
So you better believe I’m going to take every dollar that is coming to Michigan. And if my colleagues here in Minnesota and South Carolina don’t get — don’t use theirs, I’m going to be first in line to say for my people, for our citizens, to put people to work and to make sure that they can survive through this, I’ll take their dollars, too.
PAWLENTY: Well, I do. I don’t like this bill, but it is now the law. It’s not the bill that Mark and I would have crafted, but it’s now our responsibility and opportunity to try to implement it.
In Minnesota’s case, we are a major net subsidizer of the federal government, and that’s unlike some other states. For every dollar we send in, we only get 72 cents back. So we’re paying the bill either way. We’re going to take our share of the money.
We also don’t have some of the same impediments as some other states. In the unemployment area, this is a time to try to help unemployed people, and most of the enhancements that the federal government is requiring the states to undertake on this bill we did years ago. So it doesn’t impinge us or hurt us in that regard in Minnesota.
RENDELL: Well, in the long term, I don’t think anybody can be sure that any single thing is going to fix the economy. It has to be a number of things, attacking on all different sides of the problem. But I do think it will create jobs.
I mean, one thing I think we all agree on — and I hesitate to speak for all of us — is that the infrastructure dollars do produce jobs. There’s no question about that. You fix a bridge and people have to work on the bridge.
You fix a bridge and orders have to go out, hopefully, to Pennsylvania, or South Carolina, or Michigan, Minnesota companies, factories that desperately need orders — steel, concrete, asphalt, lumber. So there are aspects of this plan that are definitely job producers.
And in Pennsylvania, I think we’ll net about the same amount of jobs we’ve lost since August, 60,000 or 70,000 jobs, by the time we’re done. So there are elements of this that are terrific.
It’s not all stimulus. I mean, part of it is relief, and I think Tim said something that was very important. I’m not sure that we can, over the long run, cope with the higher unemployment compensation standard that this mandates for states, but I don’t care.
My people are suffering. My people are hurting. They need that extra money. And right now that’s paramount in my mind.
SANFORD: I guess my question would be wasn’t it the same sort of short-term thinking that got us into this problem in the first place.
And so if we say tell you what, you know, the unemployment benefit that would be basically foisted on different states is not sustainable, they can’t even pay for what they got, but they got to increase spending to — to — to pull down these federal funds, it goes to the heart of the bigger problem, which is, OK, you get a two- year window and then what happens.
You’re going to substantially increase taxes to get yourself out of the problem then? Are you going to issue more debt?
And I think one of the real issues here is we have $52 trillion in accumulated debt in Washington, D.C. And we don’t have a giant piggy bank that we can now raid now that times are tough. All this money is going to be borrowed from the future — from future generations, from Social Security.
So in essence, we’re digging yet another hole for ourselves with regard to unsustainable spending.

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Democrats have a host of idiots to draw from in their effort to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. John Kerry is no exception to this rule. In an effort to quickly confirm the allegations that liberals hold appeasement as their primary weapon against national security threats Senator John Kerry reveals Democrats are ready, willing and able to cave to accusations by the “Muslim world’ that the big bad old US needs to ‘forge ties’ with same. For all those who never cease to find time to criticize the Bush Administration’s eight years in office kindly remember we have not been attacked since September 11, 2001. ‘We share your aspirations’ is a quote from Mr Kerry. The problem is Mr Kerry may not be completely up to speed on what those aspirations are. To broadly state that the US wants to ‘forge better ties’ with the ‘Muslim world’ assumes that all Muslims share common aspirations. Are liberals so ignorant as to think ALL Muslims think alike? Are they silly enough to assume a generalization like that? Name one group where all members of the set think exactly alike on any issue or topic. This is part of the Obama brain trust who is the Chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee. What is worse? That Kerry could have won in 2004 or Obama winning in 2008?
Kerry called on Americans to do their part to ease the climate of fear and distrust that followed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States. “If we truly want to empower Muslim moderates, we must also stop tolerating the casual Islamophobia that has seeped into our political discourse since 9/11,” he said.
She said detainee abuses at hands of U.S. personnel in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and the U.S. detention center Guantanamo Bay, Cuba hurt America’s image in the Muslim world. She said most Muslims believe the U.S. invasion of Iraq did more harm than good, and that very few Muslims believe the United States takes an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
President Obama is often described as an orator. Whether great or good or above average the description in its various forms is widely used after Mr Obama speaks in public. Not taking those speeches or public statements at face value is the task. It is of course not uncommon for politicians to use speeches to further their agendas. The President’s recent speech is no exception. How one interprets a politician’s speech is the task.

Is this a little melodramatic? Okay, that is going to happen in a speech. After all, if you don’t want your audience falling asleep in the first ten minutes you have to get and keep their attention. That did it. Are you sure our survival depends on new sources of energy? How about we consider utilizing the ones we have before introducing fear of survival to the debate. We import more oil now? No wonder. Have you considered the fact that the nation gets larger every year? That might account for importing more oil. Have you considered it may be better to import than drain all our own resources? Have you considered that much opposition has been raised over using our own resources? Take for instance the recent opposition to offshore drilling. Even drilling within the country is not something that is necessarily profitable or without opposition.
PBO’s weekly address finds the new President claiming he will keep a campaign promise. Now all we need is answers to why he has failed to deliver on others. And it is not like some of them are difficult to implement. Take for example transparency. A little reminder of those missed promises was not allowing the public to inspect the stimulus package and make comments before the vote was held.
If Senator Shelby is taking heat for a story indicating he questions President Obama’s citizenship it may be worth the price of admission. While Shelby is quoted below responding to the report being incomplete and a distortion and the paper standing by their account the story becomes mired in who do you believe? But does that really matter? The larger point is that the MSM never pursued the vast quantity of questions about their chosen candidate. To have one question revived if only for a moment may be worthwhile. The mystery man who is the current US President has successfully dodged inquiries into his past.
Some of the promises made by Barack Obama may have disappeared. Much talk of bipartisanship and reaching across the aisle leading up to the stimulus package and his administration in general along with transparency have faded. Quotes like the one above needed to generate debate on the stimulus before it became law. As cited by many in Congress, mostly from the GOP, no one may have had time and no one certainly read the 1000 plus page document. Hundreds of politicians voting on something they know little if anything about. And the public was shut out. Where is the promise from Obama that the public would be able to view and comment on the ‘proposal’?
Going out on a limb the view at this blog is there is no politician alive who will not take the money. If Obama maintains a policy of use it or lose it you can bet staffers of every politician have already compiled a variety of public statements to cover every possibility. Either they will take the money and offer an excuse or offer the excuse and then take the money.
The excerpt below links to an interesting analysis of how the price at the pump is determined. This blog cannot speak to the validity of this appraisal but it is interesting nonetheless. In other words it is worth a read.





















