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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18909</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just to be clear, yes, I will listen and I encourage people to share their opinions on this blog as well as other places cuz everyone is entitled to have an opinion.

BUT, Barack Obama is about as far left as it gets.  His association with 'we should have done more' domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, his wife and others plus 20 years of Rev ' ...damn America' Wright and convicted felon Tony 'raised funds for Obama and Biden' Rezko and the list goes on, causes me to form the opinion that he is not someone who should be in the Senate, let alone the White House.

But you are welcome to continue to share your thoughts on this blog and given the time required to analyze such matters it is likely this could go on for a while as I have limited opportunity to pursue all my interests and those pesky responsibilities to which most of us need to attend.

Thanks for stoppin' in and thanks for your comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, yes, I will listen and I encourage people to share their opinions on this blog as well as other places cuz everyone is entitled to have an opinion.</p>
<p>BUT, Barack Obama is about as far left as it gets.  His association with &#8216;we should have done more&#8217; domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, his wife and others plus 20 years of Rev &#8216; &#8230;damn America&#8217; Wright and convicted felon Tony &#8216;raised funds for Obama and Biden&#8217; Rezko and the list goes on, causes me to form the opinion that he is not someone who should be in the Senate, let alone the White House.</p>
<p>But you are welcome to continue to share your thoughts on this blog and given the time required to analyze such matters it is likely this could go on for a while as I have limited opportunity to pursue all my interests and those pesky responsibilities to which most of us need to attend.</p>
<p>Thanks for stoppin&#8217; in and thanks for your comments
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		<title>by: Kaleokualoha</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18906</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank you, Sir, for your willingness to listen.  Unfortunately, David's reaction is more common among the followers of Cliff Kincaid.  

I am indeed the son of Frank Marshall Davis, and my blog is an attempt to defuse the barrage of disinformation from AIM concerning my father.  As a retired Air Force Intelligence Officer, with specific training in Deception Analysis by the C.I.A. at &quot;The Farm&quot; in 1989 (while I was assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency), I can recognize a KGB-style disinformation campaign.  I believe others can too.

Once again, I invite anyone of integrity to examine Kincaid's falsehoods in the &quot;Specific Misrepresentations&quot; section of my &quot;Redbaiting Barack Obama&quot; post at http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Sir, for your willingness to listen.  Unfortunately, David&#8217;s reaction is more common among the followers of Cliff Kincaid.  </p>
<p>I am indeed the son of Frank Marshall Davis, and my blog is an attempt to defuse the barrage of disinformation from AIM concerning my father.  As a retired Air Force Intelligence Officer, with specific training in Deception Analysis by the C.I.A. at &#8220;The Farm&#8221; in 1989 (while I was assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency), I can recognize a KGB-style disinformation campaign.  I believe others can too.</p>
<p>Once again, I invite anyone of integrity to examine Kincaid&#8217;s falsehoods in the &#8220;Specific Misrepresentations&#8221; section of my &#8220;Redbaiting Barack Obama&#8221; post at <a href='http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX' rel='nofollow'>http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX</a>
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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18893</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Another BTW, in case you did not notice, Kaleokualoha is supposed to be the son of Frank Marshall Davis as stated on his blog.  Another reason I found this whole discussion attractive or perhaps even compelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another BTW, in case you did not notice, Kaleokualoha is supposed to be the son of Frank Marshall Davis as stated on his blog.  Another reason I found this whole discussion attractive or perhaps even compelling.
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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18892</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry, David, I have not been sucked in if that means someone has convinced me of something.  I just like having discussions.  Go ahead, visit K's link, you may find it interesting.

BTW, to everyone contributing, thanks, I luv this stuff.

It will be a while based on the time I have available these interests but K will have more to digest from this blog or possibly on his comments section which would only be fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, David, I have not been sucked in if that means someone has convinced me of something.  I just like having discussions.  Go ahead, visit K&#8217;s link, you may find it interesting.</p>
<p>BTW, to everyone contributing, thanks, I luv this stuff.</p>
<p>It will be a while based on the time I have available these interests but K will have more to digest from this blog or possibly on his comments section which would only be fair.
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		<title>by: Kaleokualoha</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18888</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Au contraire!  I posted Tidwell's entire paragraph which included this absolutely relevant statement:  &quot;Further, to those attempting to make the specious stand for the concrete, there is no evidence that he instructed Barack Obama in communist ideology.&quot;  

This was a direct response to David's delusional scenario of  Obama implementing the &quot;communist philosophy&quot; of Davis.  Tidwell's statement could have been intended for David, because Davis is certainly &quot;attempting to make the specious stand for the concrete.&quot;

I am arguing against something CLEARLY presented:  David's delusional scenario.  Tidwell says there is no evidence of Davis instructing Obama in communist ideology.   What evidence does David have that Davis instructed Obama in such?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Au contraire!  I posted Tidwell&#8217;s entire paragraph which included this absolutely relevant statement:  &#8220;Further, to those attempting to make the specious stand for the concrete, there is no evidence that he instructed Barack Obama in communist ideology.&#8221;  </p>
<p>This was a direct response to David&#8217;s delusional scenario of  Obama implementing the &#8220;communist philosophy&#8221; of Davis.  Tidwell&#8217;s statement could have been intended for David, because Davis is certainly &#8220;attempting to make the specious stand for the concrete.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am arguing against something CLEARLY presented:  David&#8217;s delusional scenario.  Tidwell says there is no evidence of Davis instructing Obama in communist ideology.   What evidence does David have that Davis instructed Obama in such?
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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18884</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Stanfod, Kaleokualoha has sucked you in by the typical commie/leftist/&lt;i&gt;soi disant&lt;/i&gt; &quot;progressive&quot; technique of reframing the argument. I clearly and accurately stated Davis' radical communist activist past. He &lt;i&gt;restated&lt;/i&gt; it as &quot;Davis was not a &lt;i&gt;Stalinist&lt;/i&gt;,&quot; proceded to conflate &quot;Stalinism&quot; with &quot;Marxism&quot; and &quot;comunism&quot; and then argued against something not presented. 

Using well-known falacies of rhetoric--especially his primary one, &quot;Straw man&quot;--is a part of the leftist toolbag of phony argument. He's:

a. not worth responding to because he makes disingenuous arguments or
b. not worth wasting time in  attempts to persuade because IF he doesn't know he's presenting false argument, then he's probably too stupid to be persuaded by reason.

Stanford, IMO the only proper response to such trolls is,

&quot;I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough water! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! ...now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!&quot;

I know, I know: it's a higher order of &quot;argument&quot; than such trolls deserve, but tis as low as I'm willing to go. OTOH, if you feed a troll, you'll have to get out your pooper scooper to deal with the droppings.

Now, off to up my meds so I can deal fairly with such trolls (tying BOTH lobes of my brain behind my back is the only way to level the playing field).

On the gripping hand, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirdworldcounty.us/?p=1896&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;this&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (the comment thread) is an alternate method of dealing with trolls. Fun, but ultimately just a way to kill time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stanfod, Kaleokualoha has sucked you in by the typical commie/leftist/<i>soi disant</i> &#8220;progressive&#8221; technique of reframing the argument. I clearly and accurately stated Davis&#8217; radical communist activist past. He <i>restated</i> it as &#8220;Davis was not a <i>Stalinist</i>,&#8221; proceded to conflate &#8220;Stalinism&#8221; with &#8220;Marxism&#8221; and &#8220;comunism&#8221; and then argued against something not presented. </p>
<p>Using well-known falacies of rhetoric&#8211;especially his primary one, &#8220;Straw man&#8221;&#8211;is a part of the leftist toolbag of phony argument. He&#8217;s:</p>
<p>a. not worth responding to because he makes disingenuous arguments or<br />
b. not worth wasting time in  attempts to persuade because IF he doesn&#8217;t know he&#8217;s presenting false argument, then he&#8217;s probably too stupid to be persuaded by reason.</p>
<p>Stanford, IMO the only proper response to such trolls is,</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough water! I fart in your general direction! You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! &#8230;now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!&#8221;</p>
<p>I know, I know: it&#8217;s a higher order of &#8220;argument&#8221; than such trolls deserve, but tis as low as I&#8217;m willing to go. OTOH, if you feed a troll, you&#8217;ll have to get out your pooper scooper to deal with the droppings.</p>
<p>Now, off to up my meds so I can deal fairly with such trolls (tying BOTH lobes of my brain behind my back is the only way to level the playing field).</p>
<p>On the gripping hand, <a href="http://www.thirdworldcounty.us/?p=1896" rel="nofollow"><b>this</b></a> (the comment thread) is an alternate method of dealing with trolls. Fun, but ultimately just a way to kill time.
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		<title>by: Maggie Thornton</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18883</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Intended to say: RCP

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intended to say: RCP</p>
<p>Maggie
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		<title>by: Maggie Thornton</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18882</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm mixed on the issue of 18-30 yr. olds voting, or not! I tend to hope they stay home. I think true Conservative's in this age range will get themselves to the polls.

I like the Liberals hovering in the halls of power. I'll steal that one of these days.

Excellent look at the differences between the two tickets.

Maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m mixed on the issue of 18-30 yr. olds voting, or not! I tend to hope they stay home. I think true Conservative&#8217;s in this age range will get themselves to the polls.</p>
<p>I like the Liberals hovering in the halls of power. I&#8217;ll steal that one of these days.</p>
<p>Excellent look at the differences between the two tickets.</p>
<p>Maggie
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		<title>by: Kaleokualoha</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18878</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A &quot;scandal&quot; requires wrongdoing.  What is the scandal Kincaid talks about? Was Obama wrong for visiting Davis as a teenager?   Obama didn't identify &quot;Frank&quot; by his full name in his book because he identified a number of people only by their first names.  This is common practice in a memoir.  I would think a journalist like Cliff Kincaid should know that.  Where is the scandal?

BTW:  Cliff Kincaid's Accuracy In Media (AIM) has &quot;deliberately misrepresented&quot; Frank Marshall Davis.  I have documented numerous AIM &quot;specific misrepresentations&quot; in the &quot;Redbaiting Barack Obama&quot; post at http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX.  I invite you and any other person of integrity to refute any of these AIM falsehoods, and to post your findings either here, or in the comments section of the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;scandal&#8221; requires wrongdoing.  What is the scandal Kincaid talks about? Was Obama wrong for visiting Davis as a teenager?   Obama didn&#8217;t identify &#8220;Frank&#8221; by his full name in his book because he identified a number of people only by their first names.  This is common practice in a memoir.  I would think a journalist like Cliff Kincaid should know that.  Where is the scandal?</p>
<p>BTW:  Cliff Kincaid&#8217;s Accuracy In Media (AIM) has &#8220;deliberately misrepresented&#8221; Frank Marshall Davis.  I have documented numerous AIM &#8220;specific misrepresentations&#8221; in the &#8220;Redbaiting Barack Obama&#8221; post at <a href='http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX' rel='nofollow'>http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX</a>.  I invite you and any other person of integrity to refute any of these AIM falsehoods, and to post your findings either here, or in the comments section of the blog.
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		<title>by: Faultline USA</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/an-ideal-choice-in-a-less-than-ideal-election/#comment-18877</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I completely agree. Good article. Gave you my RCP today.</description>
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