Lefties Concede Debate to McCain
Chris Cillizza of the Washington Post described McCain as appearing in this debate better than any previous ones. A command of the subject matter and the stage is about as good a critique as McCain’s camp might expect from the MSM. Cillizza also points to the discussion on preconditions as McCain’s strongest moment for hitting Obama on misunderstanding Kissinger. The earlier post from this blog reviewing that point of the debate mentioned Obama’s flaw at redefining ‘preconditions’ as merely ‘preparation’.’ And that the point on Kissinger was likely to bite someone in the backside. Cillizza places the bite on Obama.
He goes on to say Obama’s objective was to link McCain to Bush but suggested many may remember McCain as the one who opposed Bush in the 2000 campaign. While this report from WaPo stops short of declaring a clear winner it obviously gives the lion’s share of positive points to John McCain.
Jonathan Last from the Weekly Standard has a report entitled ‘Fight Night, Scoring Obama-McCain Round by Round’ in which he scores the bout not as a knockout or TKO but a decision giving McCain victory in seven out of eight rounds.
At least for the view from this blog a major surprise comes from Josh Marshall at TPM and his account of the debate. WaPo ,above, being fairly even handed and a review from the Weekly Standard giving a weak nod to McCain even with a 7 to 1 score are not ‘wow’ reviews. But cringing before the expected acid bath from lefty Josh Marshall finds the following opening to his report.
The mild criticism from Marshall translates into victory for McCain. When has a liberal ever been so non-combative in framing a take on a political event between a Democrat and a Republican. Actually it may be an incredible victory for McCain as Marshall really has nothing over the top impressive he can hang on Obama. But perhaps that was expected since most people agreed McCain is stronger in debates while Obama is addicted to a prompter. That may explain the thus far muted response from the left not wanting to concede that Obama’s only positive was not creating a major gaffe beyond the ‘preconditions’ weakness.
An equally surprising analysis comes from NRO (National Review Online) and Jim Geraghty. Opening with everyone probably thought ‘their guy’ won. And then following with a blend of praise and criticism on several points for each candidate. His suggestion to Obama was to use more of the personal story stuff to woo voters as the type of thing that worked for him in the past. A similar comment was shared on the PBS post game right after the debate. And once again McCain is credited for having the skill and experience to handle the job especially in light of the debate’s principle topics for the evening. This is just one more report that is convincing in its assessment. While no one seems to be handing either side a decisive victory with accolades, every one mentions McCain having a command of the topics and the debate. So why isn’t that a big victory? Perhaps cuz everyone knew it from before the debate.
Both Chuck Todd at NBC and Noam Scheiber from The New Republic essentially echoed sentiment like the other reports except Scheiber noted Obama seemed to lay down rather than compete when McCain scored his biggest points. That may be more telling on his ability, or lack of same, to be President. It gives more significance to one of McCain’s remarks that Obama would simply say ‘no’ if meeting with Ahmadinejad while he threatens to destroy Israel. While it seemed at first as simply a way of making light of Obama’s misconceptions of what is required while engaged in foreign policy, viewers may have missed this salient point. Obama may really possess some childish or foolish notions about handling matters of state far more dangerous than the socialist or communist ideals he has been tagged with during the campaign.
While from the left TPM offered a tame response to the debate as cited above, Slate on the other hand seems precariously near a meltdown. Right out of the gate they are conceding victory to McCain and almost bashing Obama for wimping out on them. Thanks to Slate for providing a more typical lefty response. They slam Obama for not using words like ‘we’ or ‘us’ when Obama spoke of the middle class. Hey dumb ass, check Obama’s income disclosure. He does not qualify economically as ‘middle class.’ He would be hammered in at least the conservative press for being a hypocrite if he characterized himself as middle class with a seven figure income.
But the part you can really like is the report from Slate also complained Obama did not do enough pointing out the ‘what a nightmare the last six years have been.’ The last SIX YEARS! Gee Wally, what happened to the first two years of the Bush Administration in the view from the left. Has the kook fringe mania been prolonged to the point they are all suffering from a mental breakdown? All that from none other than Mickey Kaus and even he gives Mccain the nod. Whining that he wanted ‘game changing’ from his Messiah and did not get it. That is not the only thing Kaus doesn’t get.
The post game polls, other reviews not mentioned here and on and on leads this blog to hold with the initial reaction that this debate will do little to influence the campaign except to say that the pundits on the left are conceding victory to McCain and that is perhaps his biggest gain from the debate aside from the fact that Obama did look the rookie. So you can place a seasoned Senator in the White House and understand his positives will outweigh his negatives while leading this country or acquiesce to the flawed political ambition of a candidate with nothing more than an academic approach to understanding the role of President of the United States. It is your choice. It is our future. Let’s not mess this one up. 2008 for McCain and 2012 or 16 for Obama is a safer bet than the big risk of choosing a rookie now. While this blog would never vote for Obama, those of you who would may want to consider waiting until he may be ready. If he cannot maintain a presence in politics until the next Presidential election it will be proof enough he was never Presidential material. And if he really is Presidential material waiting four more years or so is no great risk. Certainly not as great as electing him now and having history prove the theory to be wrong. Think about it.
Stanford Matthews
MoreWhat.com

September 27th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
RCP
It would be “interesting” to hear some of Obama’s stories, wouldn’t it? We know so little.
I thought McCain was very focused on every answer. I heard some criticism that the wasn’t passionate enough, but if you watched his face, he was indeed passionate and very serious about what he was saying.
Maggie
Maggie’s Notebook
September 27th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I read many reports today from sources all over and most give a lot of credit to McCain for how he handled the debate. But as in my initial post on the topic I don’t expect much change in the campaign because of it.
Thanks Maggie
September 27th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Obama’s “I gotta bracelet too” remark and inability to remember the soldier’s name was a major gaffe and will define the debate.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I tend to agree with what Bernie said.
McCain: This bracelet, I got it from a mother’s soldier. I had better luck than her son, I survived. What a honor it was for me to receive this medal from a mother.
Obama: Jim, I’ve got one too, just like you did.
It’s like complaining about your cold to a man stoically battling a terminal illness.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Watching the debate that exchange made me uncomfortable but I did not expect it to be critiqued as it has today. I thought the gifts each candidate received were rare personal gestures from grieving citizens that should not be part of the debate. However, I do agree that McCain addressed it as an honor whereas Obama was simply like a ‘me too’ blunder.
Thank you for stoppin’ in and the commentary.
September 28th, 2008 at 3:49 am
Someone else views the Iran portion of the debate as a critical error for Obama. You might like to read it.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kassdebatemccainobamasep28,0,6575954.column